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Plants turning yellow?
« on: April 27, 2009, 03:09:19 PM »
My water hyacinth, water lettuce, and other plants seem to be very unhappy in their new home. although they have been putting out baby plants (that I have been trimming off don't know if I should do that). The hyacinth keeps turning black (the air filled pods) and I have to trim it away. the water lettuce seems to be coming back. The lillys are doing well but the miniature cat tails and umbrella plants, and other plants seem to be suffering. the planted plants are in gravel and the floating plants are... floating I also have a couple tank plants in there that have died a few times before. What am I doing wrong!

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 07:07:10 PM »
I had my water lilies planted in gravel and they did not do well at all. Now I use Joyce's recipe here on this forum and I am hopeful that they will do well this year. I'm in Washington and the Hyacinth don't do good here as it never stays warm long enough for them to do much. Somebody will have more info prolly for you shortly. Wishing you luck on your plants  O0

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009, 06:37:00 AM »
Thank you jw. I bought plant food for them yesterday so hopefully by next feeding time (a month from now) I will see a noticeable improvement. 

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009, 11:00:02 AM »
Where do you pond?  Is it still cold out there?  The temps may be affecting your plants if it is still cold.

In my experience water hyacinths need plenty of sun all day and warm water, otherwise rot and meltdown.  Water lettuce seems to need a lesser amount of sun in comparison and will only darken and moosh when the water is too cold.

I do not have nearly enough sun over my ponds to have tons of growth but it's enough to give me plenty greens and blooms
 

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 12:13:59 PM »
Sounds like there isn't enough nutrients for them to survive/thrive.
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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 06:32:42 PM »
Sounds like there isn't enough nutrients for them to survive/thrive.
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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009, 08:35:41 AM »
How do I add nutrients? The algae seems to be capable of growing well and so does the little floaty stuff... what IS that stuff BTW? :) there are two different kinds one is green little round leaves with one or two long roots floating with the rest of the plants it grows great the other is like... reddish and looks like a tree leaf but with a root. I noticed today that my lillys are putting out new roots and new pads @O@. One lilly was a freebie, the other I bought as an impulse buy at the home depot. Both seem to be doing well. My pond gets early morning sun then late morning half of the pond gets direct sunlight the other half is shaded by my umbrella. by early to mid afternoon the pond is in full shade. I live on the Central Coast of California and it stays breezy here and my pond temps average in the mid 40's-high 50's in the early morning then it heats up to the mid 60's-70's by noon. We have not gotten into our "warm" months ::) as this area stays fairly warm all year long. Winter will be chilled but we never have snow (it's not uncommon to hear that someone from here has NEVER seen snow before :o) it is EXTREMELY rare for us to experience much frost maybe 3 mornings a year I will notice a frost on the tips of the grass. I have a cork screw bush (well piece with like 3 stems on it right now o(:-)) the mini cat tails (are the leaves supposed to bend a lot? when they do they hit the water and starts to die where it bent so I placed some of the rubber bands I get on the bags for the fish around it very loosely to give it support) and a piece of a plant with one leaf on each stalk that looks like a spade... the store I bought it from said it blooms beautiful blue flowers... 8-)~ I have no idea what it's called though >:(-

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 04:54:36 AM »
Do you have fish in the pond?  They are the ones that provide the "food" for the plants with their waste.  Personally I would never plant in gravel for individual plants, only if I had a specific bog filter made to use gravel.  Joyce has a great formula posted for planting & I will use our ground soil with Osmocote with good results.
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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 05:49:54 AM »
How do I add nutrients? The algae seems to be capable of growing well and so does the little floaty stuff... what IS that stuff BTW? :) there are two different kinds one is green little round leaves with one or two long roots floating with the rest of the plants it grows great the other is like... reddish and looks like a tree leaf but with a root. I noticed today that my lillys are putting out new roots and new pads @O@. One lilly was a freebie, the other I bought as an impulse buy at the home depot. Both seem to be doing well. My pond gets early morning sun then late morning half of the pond gets direct sunlight the other half is shaded by my umbrella. by early to mid afternoon the pond is in full shade. I live on the Central Coast of California and it stays breezy here and my pond temps average in the mid 40's-high 50's in the early morning then it heats up to the mid 60's-70's by noon. We have not gotten into our "warm" months ::) as this area stays fairly warm all year long. Winter will be chilled but we never have snow (it's not uncommon to hear that someone from here has NEVER seen snow before :o) it is EXTREMELY rare for us to experience much frost maybe 3 mornings a year I will notice a frost on the tips of the grass. I have a cork screw bush (well piece with like 3 stems on it right now o(:-)) the mini cat tails (are the leaves supposed to bend a lot? when they do they hit the water and starts to die where it bent so I placed some of the rubber bands I get on the bags for the fish around it very loosely to give it support) and a piece of a plant with one leaf on each stalk that looks like a spade... the store I bought it from said it blooms beautiful blue flowers... 8-)~ I have no idea what it's called though >:(-

Fish usually provide enough nutrients for most plants in the pond.  Your lilies may (probably will) need a supplement.  You can buy tablets that are placed in the planting median.  There are liquid plant foods that you can buy.  I never tried them but friends have, they said it turned their yellow plants a dark green.

That ‘little floaty stuff’ (the green one) is Duckweed.  It can be very hard to control if not checked in some way.  My fish love it so it is never a problem.

The plants which you describe as ‘one leaf… that looks like a spade’ sounds like Pickerel Weed.  If it is, they do have beautiful flowers; it is one of my favorites.  It is also known as Pickerel Rush, Dog-tongue, Wampees, and Blue-flag (which usually refers to an iris).

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 07:54:30 AM »
I do have fish in there. One platinum butterfly koi poor thing was so thin and sick when I bought it... guess I'm a fool for punishment but he's better now and gaining weight!  @O@. I also have 3 guppy's (one female I think shes much bigger than the other two) one medium sized feeder goldie and 6 small goldies. I also have a biofilter, bubbler, and do small water changes maybe two - three times a week. Thats why I was confused as to why the hyacinth is dieing. am I supposed to trimm the daughter plants they put out or leave them on? I put a tablet in the water... 3 days ago now. So monday. I noticed today two of the hyacinth leaves are greening up now. My fish eat my duck weed  >:(- I happen to LOVE it! In fact I am trying to grow more in a separate bucket.  ::) Guess I'm weird! Well.... I wounder what I did wrong to make the plants die... Maybe I'm cleaning the pond too often?

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 02:19:44 PM »
Sounds like you are doing too many water changes.  Most people will have a seperate container to grow extra duckweed to feed their fish with.  Have old/dirty water in it for healthy plants.  Same goes with the hyacinth--don't trim away the extras unless you don't want too many of them.
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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2009, 12:11:07 PM »
Ok well a couple leaves are turning green now so I'm not so worried, I will cut back on my mother hen'ing and let the stinkin pond take care of itself! The duckweed I keep in a bucket and when I clean my biofilter I will spray the brown gunk into the bucket with the duckweed and extra baby plants. No more trimming the baby plants off just old ugly dead plants. How many of those tablets should I pop in the pond (60 gal) for a month long feeding?

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2009, 12:30:57 PM »
If you are talking about plopping the fertilizer tabs right into the pond water..........I wouldn't do that as you will get tons of algae. I would only put them into the pots that the plants are in by sticking your finger down into the soil and then pushing the fertilizer tab down into the hole and cover it up good. Joyce says if you line your pots with black plastic so that the fertilizer can't leach out into your pond water you will have less of an algae problem. Hope this helps.

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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2009, 01:04:41 PM »
Nitrogen is lacking it sounds like to me.


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Re: Plants turning yellow?
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2009, 01:10:21 PM »
If you are talking about plopping the fertilizer tabs right into the pond water..........I wouldn't do that as you will get tons of algae. I would only put them into the pots that the plants are in by sticking your finger down into the soil and then pushing the fertilizer tab down into the hole and cover it up good. Joyce says if you line your pots with black plastic so that the fertilizer can't leach out into your pond water you will have less of an algae problem. Hope this helps.

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