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Hand Spawning experiment!
« on: April 09, 2009, 08:15:48 PM »
Last weekend while I was driving my mother all over the place my DD was watching the shubs, wakins and fancies do the "chase" all day long.  She said she noticed a favorite calico ryunkin "spraying" eggs while being chased by 5 males (  :D :o :D )

Then she decided to experiment.  She remembers a site I showed her of hand spawning.  She got the female and gently massaged the eggs into a large bucket of pond water.  Then she picked a few choice males and did the same massage on their bellies for the sperm.  Then she stirred the water around to mix the eggs with the sperm.  Most of the eggs stuck to the side of the container.

When I got home I added some anacharis and an air bubble stone.  We babied this container of eggs.  Heat pad, fungus solution, a lamp for spying on fish with a small magnifier glass.  We were in business.  I also used a meat thermometer to check water temps.   :D  Eggs hatch sooner at 80+* and they did in 2 days!

Then a couple of days later I noticed the bucket of anacharis I pulled out of the pond the day before (when the fishies first started chasing) also had a few fries swimming around!  They were only a few of a thousand plus babies swimming around....and they weren't babied!!!!  Just sitting outdoors in the sun!  And no one bossing me around or complaining about the doom of the fries!

Well it has been a week and a half since the eggs have hatched and we have zillions of fries.  The hand spawned in one bucket and a another of very mixed up fries.

We also found out we have 6 female fish and too many males.   :-\  We worried about the poor females getting chased by at least half a dozen guys each! 

Turtles are also hoping for many culls I'm sure  ;) :D

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 08:18:46 PM »
Today's fries....just a few here of the mutts.

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 01:05:23 PM »
 O0 O0 O0 O0
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There is never enough room for all of the water lilies that I want ;-)

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 03:21:12 PM »
I heard that hand spawning can make you go blind.  8)  {nono}

That is so neat. What will you do with zillions of babies?

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 04:52:36 PM »
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I heard that hand spawning can make you go blind.

Is that why...... :D :o

I have eight red ear slider turtles waiting patiently for throw backs  ;D  Seriously, I doubt they will all survive though, life's tough.

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 05:51:08 PM »
How fascinating!  And what fun!  It will be interesting to see what they look like won't it?  ;)
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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 04:13:52 PM »
Today not much change in size but we see the side fins on most of the fry.  They're getting darker, less glassy.  I just hope there will be a few good looking ones in the bucket!  I mean shape and color.  Of the six females there are 3 wakins, one ryunkin (short fins), and 2 shubunkin( one blue).  The males are many shubs (half are the blue color), one wakin, 2 orandas, and 3 ryunkins.  Most of these fish are long finned.

I only hope there will Not be any humped back, short finned wakin body with black spots on dirty white.  :D

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 05:19:07 PM »
I had no idea that baby fry could be soooo smal!  From my monitor they look like mosquito larvae.  How do you tell the difference? 
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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 05:07:17 AM »
Mosquito larvae will wiggle like a snake & the goldfish fry will dart quickly.

Sounds like they are making progress  O0
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There is never enough room for all of the water lilies that I want ;-)

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 07:23:47 PM »
How cool is that ! It'll be interesting to watch them grow & develop .

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Re: Hand Spawning experiment!
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2009, 08:50:45 PM »
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I had no idea that baby fry could be soooo smal!  From my monitor they look like mosquito larvae.  How do you tell the difference?

It amazing how many mosquito larvae there are in the containers too.  Unfortunately the frys are too small to handle this population  :P

The frys are growing so slowly outside and it has been a very cold week  >:(  We can't wait to see some shape or tail styles.  So far they still look the same except a bit bigger and darker.

How long does this process take before we see goldfish shapes?!!!

 

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